🌱 Discussion 1
What is the book of Ecclesiastes about (a), and how does that understanding impact your walk with the Lord (b)?
(Please bring at least two points and include at least one reference with part A) .
A)
~ Ecc. 2:15 - Then I said in my heart, "What happens to the fool will happen to me also. Why then have I been so very wise?" And I said in my heart that this also is vanity.
- v.15 is about death, that even if one is wise or a fool, all die.
- The entire book's point is: the toil of man until death comes; death comes to all, and it has reigned over all because sin was introduced through Adam.
- It shows the futility of life, and longing for eternity.
B)
- bring practical example.
What does it mean to "number our days" (ref Ps. 90:12)
~ To live in wisdom. To live in the fear of God while one has days. They won't squander time, however.
What is the complete verse of 2 Peter 1:6
And __ with self-control, and ___ with ___ and ___ with ___"
"And knowledge with self-control, and self-control with steadfastness, and steadfastness with godliness."
(2 Peter 1:6)
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From main verse (Ecc. 1:8):
~ referencing Ps. 90:12 "So teach us to number our days that we may get a heart of wisdom"
~ Point: To live in wisdom is to number our days. Meaning, to live in the fear of God while one has days. Not squandering time however.
What is a disciple, what does it mean to be a spiritual disciple? Please provide a verse reference
(Matt 4:19) A disciple means to follow.
Because God is spirit, we worship Him in spirit and in truth.
We aren't just followers but are also spiritual people.
What is the walk of righteousness? Please provide verse refernce.
verse (Proverbs 10:29)
point: Blamelessness is the walk of righteousness.
What are some of the practical applications we learned from the main verse (Ecc. 1:8)?
~ Asking: How have I lived my days so far? If I died today, went to the LORD, would I be content of how I served the Lord?
~ We are called to walk in genuineness in the fear of God, knowing our reward is after the LORD comes.
~ To live in wisdom, meaning "number our days." I have to live accordingly to the fear God.
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From week 10, Part 4 ( Job question) (Proverbs 24:12): "If you say. Behold, we did not know this; does not he who weighs the heart perceive it?..."
Point: Uprightness in the heart is to turn from evil in the heart.
God is the one who weighs.
The heart and conscience testify to the character of a person's heart.
Please explain 2 points from what we spoke about the main verse, including references?
Ecclesiastes 1:8
All things are full of weariness; a man cannot utter it; the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
~ Ecc. 2:15-16 - Even if a fool, or wise, all will be forgotten. V. 15 is about death.
~ The entire book's point = death comes to all, and it has reigned over all because of sin introduced through Adam.
~ Ecc. 12:1 & v.2-4 are figurative and about the evil day, meaning when one is drawing near to death, to remember to seek our Creator while in one's youth rather than when old.
~ v.13-14 - Fear God and Keep His commandments, meaning the conclusion is that no one can escape death.
*also brought v.10-11 & v. 4 - what has been before has always been, there is no contentment or satisfaction, therefore it is in vain.
What must we take pains to do and why is this important? Please provide verse reference.
Verse: (Acts 24:16)
Points:
1. We must take pains to walk uprightly
2. An upright walk makes one to purify themselves.
What is the difference between brotherly affection and love? Please reference the verse. How does one experience God's love in fellowship?
(Brotherly affection→ Love) (Phil 1:8) It's a feeling. It's care that produces affection and brings belongingness; it's shown through kindness, and from this love is added.
One experiences God's love in fellowship through the kindness of their siblings.
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~ "morally neutral"
~ From question 2: "Give 2 examples in the Bible (and explain them) that are “morally neutral,” but because of some immoral associations in a person’s past may be detrimental to that person, at least for a time” (pg. 80, par. 3)."
~ E.g. (Gen 13:9-13) - how Lot could choose land from the left or from the right, and there was no wrong land.
Why is knowledge important? Please provide verse reference.
Verse: (Hosea 4:6)
Points:
1. If you're not filled with knowledge you'll perish.
2. knowledge is what propels one to be virtuous.
3. Knowledge is what transforms.
Please give the two examples we brought in light of what "morally neutral" means (please bring reference(s))?
~ Genesis 13:9-13 - When Lot chose given the option to take land from the left or right. There was no wrong land (left or right).
- based on needs, he decided (in v.10 ...the Jordan Valley was well watered everywhere like the garden of the LORd..."
- Lot didn't know what type of people the people in Sodom and Gomorrah were (wicked place).
~ 2 Samuel 6:16-23 (David)
- When David was dancing in his ephod (stripped of kingly robes), Michal's words were morally neutral, when she spoke to David about how he was acting like a king.
-Michal's words were morally neutral if in a different context, since David is a king, but because it's the presence of God, she shouldn't have.
- Subpoint: she neglected who she stood before, the presence of God, and became barren.
Please fill in the blanks for the verse:
Ecclesiastes 1:__ (ESV)
All ____ are full of ______; a man cannot ____ it; the ___ is not satisfied with _____, nor the ___ _____ with _____.
Main verse of Week 9: Putting Sin to Death
Ecclesiastes 1:8 (ESV)
All things are full of weariness; a man cannot utter it; the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
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verse: ( Isa 7:15)
Point:
1. Eating curds and honey is feeding on pure spiritual milk ( not mix)
2. Pleasantness and sweetness come from virtue
3. virtue is what heals.
What makes steadfastness different from self-control, why is steadfastness important and how must one wait? Please provide verse references
Verse: (James 5:7) (Hebrews 10:36)
Points:
1. Steadfastness is time. There's no limit to self-control. ( Don't ask how long)
2. all efforts w/o patience goes down the drain
3. we wait in doing good- For the fruits to come.
What is godliness, what produces godliness? How does righteousness and godliness work together? Please provide verse references.
Verse (Eph 4:24) (James 1:4-5)
points:
1. It's the likeness of God in the image of Christ.
2. They work together in constant good acts and loving others.
3. walking in steadfastness results in lacking in nothing =godliness.
Give at least 4 points for self-control and the verse used.
verse: (Ecc 10:1)
Points:
1. w/o temperance you cant bare fruit no obedience then w/o temperance.
2. know your weaknesses and walk in temperance- cut out even the smallest thing that can cause destruction.
3. The enemy prowls arounf to prey on gates where there is no self-control.
4. self control gives strength- it doesn't allow thoughts to run wild.
5. Self -control keeps knowledge- it made Paul know contentment.
6. Those with self control have a goal.
7. Most people speak of knowledge but lack self control.
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Verse: (Gal 3:2)
points:
1.Faith is the foundation.
2. w/o faith the divine nature cannot be added.
3. All the traits are on in faith- they are the fruits of faith.
4. A living faith has fruits