כפל
double payment
According to Rav Pappa, why does a Shomer Chinam who says "I was negligent" get the Keifel?
Because he could have exempted himself by lying and saying it was stolen
A Sho'el is exempt from paying ONLY in which case?
A) Stolen or lost (Geneva V'Aveida)
B) Negligence (Pshi'ah)
C) Died due to work (Meisa Machamas Melacha)
D) Accidental death (Ones)
C) Died due to work (Meisa Machamas Melacha)
True or False: Rav Pappa explicitly discusses the law (Din) of a Socher in these sugyot.
False (it was already learned in a Braisa).
What is the Gemara referring to when it says "לא נפיש כפליי-הו" (its כפל isn't a lot)?
since it can never get to 4 or 5 times the value כלים
פטור (Patur) and חייב (Chayav)
Exempt (Patur) and obligated/liable (Chayav)
What is the underlying reason a Shomer gets the Keifel when committing to pay?
The owner appreciates that the Shomer saved him trouble and transfers the rights of the potential fine (Keifel) to him.
Which shomer is Chayav (obligated) for accidents (O'nes)?
A) Shomer Chinam
B) Shomer Sachar
C) Socher
D) Sho'el
D) Sho'el
True or False: Both Version 1 and Version 2 of Rav Pappa agree that Meita Machamat Melacha is an uncommon occurrence (Lo Shachiah).
True.
What's a bigger bother to watch & why, בהמה או כלים?
Animal, because it goes in & out
תיובתא (Tiyuvta)
A refutation or strong question from a higher source
Why does Rav Zevid say a Sho'el does NOT get Keifel just for saying he will pay?
Because the Sho'el gets all the benefit (using the item for free), so the owner does not feel generous enough to gift him the Keifel
How does the Gemara initially try to defend Version 2 of Rav Pappa from the Braita?
A) By saying "paid" means "he said he will pay"
B) By saying the Braita was written by a Tanna
C) By saying the owner gave up hope (Ye'ush)
D) By rejecting the Braita entirely
A) By saying "paid" means "he said he will pay"
True or False: According to Version 1 of Rav Pappa, if a Sho'el actually pays money, he still does not get the Keifel.
False (if he actually pays, even Version 1 agrees he gets Keifel).
What is
?והא אין אדם מקנה דבר שלא בא לעולם
Don't we have a concept that "You can't transfer ownership of something that doesn't yet exist in this world"?
לישנא קמא (Lishna Kama) and לישנא בתרא (Lishna Batra)
The first version and the second version
According to Rav Zvid, what must a Sho'el actually do in order to get the Keifel?
He must actually pay (went ahead and paid).
Why did the Gemara compare the Braisa of a Socher to the Braisa of a Sho'el?
A) To show they are identical concepts
B) To prove that different wordings mean the Sho'el must actually pay to get Keifel
C) To prove that a Socher never gets Keifel
D) To show Rav Pappa was incorrect about Shomer Sachar
B) To prove that different wordings (Kidem Veshilem vs Veomar Hareini Meshalem) mean the Sho'el must actually pay to get Keifel
true or False: A Braisa recorded outside the Beit Midrash of Rabbi Chiya and Rabbi Oshaya cannot be used to bring a definitive proof in the Gemara.
True.
What is the words of the Gemara for "That are likely to come into this world"?
דעבידי דאתו
במאי הוה ליה למיפטר נפשיה?
How could he have exempted himself? / In what way could he have gotten himself out of paying
Explain the difference between Version 1 and Version 2 of Rav Pappa regarding a Sho'el who says "I will pay."
Version 1 says he does not get Keifel (because Meisa Machamas Melacha is uncommon); Version 2 says he does get Keifel (since theoretically he could still have claimed Meisa Machamas Melacha).
Who collected and organized the reliable Braisos?
A) Abaye
B) Rav Pappa
C) Rabbi Yehuda HaNasi
D) Rabbi Chiya and Rabbi Oshiya
D) Rabbi Chiya and Rabbi Oshaya
True or False: The Gemara ultimately concludes that the 2nd version of Rav Pappa is refuted (Tiyuvta).
True.
say the chart (by heart) of the dinim of the 4 Shomrim
Shomer Chinam only Chayav for negligence
Shomer Sachar and Socher also Chayav for lost or stolen
Shoel also Chayav for Ones