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100

Describe possible History for a person who is sus for iron def anemia

hx of:

dietary lack of iron

decreased absorption (Gastric issues)

increased requirements

chronic blood loss by way of the GI/GU tract

100

What could be seen in platelet counts in patients with SEVERE iron def anemia?

reactive thrombocytosis= plts <800k but pretty high

100

What labs would you see with a person who has AOCD

Ferritin: HIGH

serum iron level: decreased

TIBC: decreased

Transferring saturation: decrased

100

How do we treat iron def anemia and what are the pros and cons of each choice?

Oral: pros: cheap, noninvasive, simple admin, convenient- cons: malabsorption, N/V, poor compliance, interactions, can only absorb 10-20 mg a day

IV iron: pros: high iron content, 100% bioavailable, compliance, fast-acting, well tolerated- cons: adverse reactions, invasive, inpatient, cost

Blood tx: pros: replaces RBCs, compliance, great for CV instability- cons: tx reactions, cost, invasive, limited supply, complex admin

100

How would you test for thalassemia?

hemoglobin electophoresis

200

what is the presentation of iron def anemia?

Common:

fatigue

headache

exertional dyspnea

difficulty concentrating 

Rare:

pica

glossitis

koilonychia

dysphagia

200

What should you check immediately if someone comes in with a microcytic anemia

ferritin level

200

What are the 3 catergories of AOCD

chronic inflammation, organ failure, elderly

200

Will Alpha thalassemia trait have anemia?

What will their hgb electrophoresis and iron levels show?

minimal to none hgb is greater than 9

normal and normal

200

Is beta or alpha not being made in utero?

Explain how this might present

Beta-

300

What is the best indicator of total body iron?

ferritin levels

300

what is a ddx for iron def anemia

thals

lead poisoning 


300

What will the iron studies of someone with AOCD d/t being elderly or in organ failure show?

They will be normal

300

Wil hemoglobin H disease have anemia?

Will they need transfusions?

What will their hgb electrophoresis and iron levels show?

3/4 alpha genes are abnormal 

moderately severe anemia (hgb 4-9)

sometimes they need transfusions

10-40% hgh, normal to increased iron levels


300

What are two types of macrocytic anemias and how can you quickly determine if they are macrocytic

B12 and folate 

a blood smear

400

which blood test for iron def anemia would you want to check in the AM

Serum iron

400

if ferritin level is low what can you treat iron def anemia with?

iron! duh

400

Beta thalassemia minor:

describe if they are anemic, what is there hgb, do they need transfusions, and what would you see on hgb electrophresis and how to treat

mild to no anemia

9-normal hgb

no transfusions

HbA- 80-95% (Normal 97-99%)

HbA2- 4-8 % (Normal less than 1%)

HbF- 1-5%  (Normal less than 1%)


No treatment needs- do not give iron

400

Will hydrops fetalis- hemoglobin barts have anemia

Will they need transfusions?

What will their hgb electrophoresis and iron levels show?

life-threatening anemia- 4/4 genes abnormal (lethal in utero without transfusion)

transfusions required for life

hgb barts on electrophoresis

highly abnormal iron levels

400

What are the causes of b12 def and who is the "typical patient"

not getting enough from diet- strict vegans after 3 yrs

lack of intrinsic factor

- autoantibodies to gastric mucosa

-gastrectomy or gastric bypass

- SUPER bad celiacs/ chrons

-H.pylori

-pancreatic insufficiency 

white female age 60




500

What are the labs you could use for diagnosing iron def anemia and what would you see?

CBC: decreased H and H, decreased MCV, increased RDW

Ferritin: LOW

Serum iron:LOW

transferrin: HIGH

soluble transferrin receptor: HIGH

500

if ferritin is normal but you still suspect iron def, what should you  look at?

serum iron: low

transferrin saturation: low

TIBC: increased

500

Beta thalassemia intermedia:

describe if they are anemic, what is there hgb, do they need transfusions, and what would you see on hgb electrophresis and how to treat

moderate to severe anemia

6-11 hgb

usually dont need transfusion

HGA: 0-30%

HgA2: 4-10%

HbF6-10%

Treatment depends if blood transfusion is needed

500

Beta thalassemia major:

describe if they are anemic, what is there hgb, do they need transfusions, and what would you see on hgb electrophresis and how to treat

severe anemia

always less than 4 without a transfusion

always need transfusions

HGA: close to 0%

HbA2:4-10%

HbF: more than 90%

These patients need a stem cell transplant



500

S/S of b12 def anemia

if mild- none

anorexia, diarrhea, glossitis 

Complex neuro syndrom

-peripheral paresthesias

-ataxia

dementia if anemia is SUPER severe


pale, sallow, mile icterus


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