The Mishna
What are Maot MIfuzarim
scattered coins
What are פרות מפוזרן
Scattered fruit
Who are the 2 Rabbis of this great debate
Abaye and Rava
What is a סימן העשוי לדרס
What is the Halcha of the mishna re fruits and a basket
when the fruits are in the basket the finder must return the fruit.
What is the Halcha of the Mishna
These are the items the finder can keeep
How much is considered scattered
1 Kav in a 4x4 area
What is Yiush Shelo Mdaas
When the owner doesnt know he lost it
What are the opinions of Rabbah And Rava
Rabbah invalid siman
Rava Valid siman
What HAlcha can be implied from the mishna
If the fruits where outside the basket the finder may keep it.
Whta do the items in the Mishna have in commmon
they have non siman
Why should scatter not matter
because if its lost there is no siman so even if there were more fruit and not scattered the finder should be able to keep it.
If it was not lost then even if it were less fruit and very scattered the finder shouldnt be allowed to keep it.
What are the 2 opinions of the machlokes
Abaye says the owner did not give up hope
Rava says he did
Why does Rabbah say the finder may keep the bundles of grain in a public domain
Becuase there is a siman but it will rib out
What was the challenge on this assumption
A braisa taught that when an item without a siman is next to an item with a siman the finder announces both.
Why does the fact that there is no siman allow the finder to keep the item
Because since the owner has no way of verifying that it belongs to him he gives up hope of ever getting it back.
When does scatter matter
When the owner places the fruit down but the owner may or may not come back to pick it up.
If its scattered the owner wont come back.
What is the rationale of Rava
Since when he does realize its lost the owner will give up hope.
Why does Rava say the finder may keep bundles of grain in a public domain
because there is no siman
THe mishna is talking about flax wherer it is obvious the flax didnt come from the basket .
What Daf is the Mishna on
21a
What is מכנשתא דבי דרי
the threshing floor
When do Rava and Abaye Agree and why
When there is a siman on the item.
Even if the owner gives up hope later, it doesnt work retroactively because he wasnt allowed to keep it when he picked it up.
Why does Rava say the finder must announce the grain in a private domain
Even though there is no siman on the item the place is a valid siman
What is the fourth answer
The mishna is talking about where there is a rim around the opening of the basket therefore if the fruits where from the basket there would still be some in the basket.