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גנב
Stole
מכר
Sold
What happens if a shomer chinam pays for a stolen animal or item and the animal or item is found?
He gets the כּפל
How does Rava explain that a watchman gets כּפל even though its a דבר שׁלא בּא לעולם?
The owner gave him ownership of the animal when the job began on the condition that if the animal is stolen, he will pay for it first
What are the two options that the Gemara gives for what "שׁילם" in the Mishna means?
Actually pay or just promise to pay
ונגנבו
And they were stolen
משׁלם
Pays
Why does the Mishna have to teach me that watching items is the same as watching animals?
You would think that animals are harder to watch so only their watchmen get כּפל
Who challenges Rava?
Rav Zeira
What does Rabbi Yochanan hold?
It is enough for the shomer to promise to pay to get the כפל
דכי
That When/Since
איכּא
There is
Why does the Mishna have to teach me that watching animals is the same as watching items
You would think that since the thief could have to pay 4 or 5 times, the owner wouldn't sell the shomer the rights to it
How does Rav Zeira know that a watchman cannot get the watched animal's wool and babies?
It says so in a בּרייתא
What does the gemoro try to prove from the רישא of the mishna?
That שילם means actually paying
ליכּא
There is not
רצה
Want
What is Rami Bar Chama's question on the כּפל halacha?
How does the watchman have a right to the כּפל if it is a דבר שׁלא בּא לעולם?
How does Rav Zeira answer the question
He said that the owner makes it part of the condition that the shomer won't get the wool and babies
What does the סיפא of the mishna imply?
That it's enough to just promise to pay
אימא סיפא
Say the End (of the mishna)
איכּא בּייניהו
There is between them
Who holds that דבר שׁלא בּא לעולם can be bought and sold?
Rabi Meir
What is the logic behind Rav Zeira's answer?
The owner will sell something that comes from the world at large but not from the animal
How does the gemoro show that the mishna doesn't prove Rabbi Yochanan wrong?
Since what the רישא implies is the opposite of what the סיפא implies, we can only learn from the mishna what it actually says